For those not in the New York or San Jose markets in which this story has probably been hashed and rehashed and probably rerehashed, I will recap. When the Rangers defeated the Sharks 2-5 in a game on October 31, Joe Thornton, the captain of the Sharks, commented that the Rangers were a "soft" team. John Tortorella, the coach of the Rangers, did not take kindly to this statement and fired back saying that Thornton lacked class for his comment and is one of the great players in the league to have never won anything. Maybe it's the Florida connection (Tortorella coached the Tampa Bay Lightning to their Stanley Cup win in 2004), but this made me immediately think of Dan Marino... which lead me to think if Joe Thornton never wins a Cup, how accurate might this statement be?
Status: Retired Status: Active
Born in Pittsburgh, Pa Born in Lyndale, Ontario, Canada
Stats: 6'4", 224 lbs Stats: 6'4", 230 lbs (Jumbo Joe)
Draft: Selected 27th overall but first Draft: Selected 1st overall by the Boston
for the Miami Dolphins in the Bruins in the 1997 draft
1983 draft
Wears #13 Wears #19
Career: 1983-1999 (16 years with the Career: 1997-2004; 2005: Boston Bruins
Miami Dolphins) 2004-2005: HC Davos (lockout)
2005-present: San Jose Sharks
College Distinction: 1981 National Juniors Distinction:
College Quarterback of 1996 CHL Rookie of the Year
the Year runner-up (University 1996 OHL Rookie of the Year
of Pittsburgh) (Sault Ste. Marie Greyhounds)
Pro Bowl Appearances: 1983 (first rookie All-Star Appearances: 2002, 2003, 2004,
QB to play), 1984, 1985, 1986, 1987, 2007, 2008, and 2009 (named
1991, 1992, 1994, and 1995 captain)
Super Bowl Appearances: Super Bowl Stanley Cup Appearances: None; made the
XIX in 1985, defeated by Joe playoffs with the Boston Bruins in
Montana and the San Francisco 2002, 2003, and 2004; made the
49ers; made the playoffs in 1983, playoffs with the San Jose Sharks in
1984, 1985, 1990, 1992, 1994, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, and
1995, 1997, 1998, and 1999 2011
Awards: 1984 NFL MVP Awards: 2006 Art Ross and Hart
Memorial trophies, only player to win
the Hart while splitting the season
with two clubs
Notable Distinctions and Milestones: Notable Distinctions and Milestones:
Played 242 games and started 240 2011: Played in 1,000th game
of them April 8, 2011: Scored 1,000th point
Ranks 3rd in all-time wins with 147 against the Phoenix Coyotes
First QB to have six 4,000 yard seasons 2005-2006: 125 points, the highest
(1984,1985, 1986, 1988, 1992, point total for a player during
and 1994) a season with two clubs
First QB to pass for 5,000 yards in a 2006-2007: 3rd player in NHL
season (5,084 yards in 1984) history to post 90-assist
Played the most seasons for the Miami seasons in back-to-back years
Dolphins franchise 2010: Won the gold medal with Team
Has 110 wins with former head coach in the Vancouver Olympics
Don Shula, the second most for a
coach-QB tandem
Inducted into the Hall of Fame 2005
Comparing the impressive careers of these two athletes, Dan and Joe are not so different. Each has proven to be a superstar and have reached pivotal milestones. Marino may be able to boast having played in the Super Bowl and won the conference championship, but Thornton still has neither won the conference nor appeared in the Stanley Cup final. However, Joe is not empty handed, for he can raise his gold medal from the 2010 Olympics. It should be noted that Marino would never be able to do so since football is not an Olympic sport, or at least not American football. Although Marino has been featured in the blockbuster hit Ace Ventura: Pet Detective while Joe has yet to make his Hollywood debut.
Stats: 6'4", 224 lbs Stats: 6'4", 230 lbs (Jumbo Joe)
Draft: Selected 27th overall but first Draft: Selected 1st overall by the Boston
for the Miami Dolphins in the Bruins in the 1997 draft
1983 draft
Wears #13 Wears #19
Career: 1983-1999 (16 years with the Career: 1997-2004; 2005: Boston Bruins
Miami Dolphins) 2004-2005: HC Davos (lockout)
2005-present: San Jose Sharks
College Distinction: 1981 National Juniors Distinction:
College Quarterback of 1996 CHL Rookie of the Year
the Year runner-up (University 1996 OHL Rookie of the Year
of Pittsburgh) (Sault Ste. Marie Greyhounds)
Pro Bowl Appearances: 1983 (first rookie All-Star Appearances: 2002, 2003, 2004,
QB to play), 1984, 1985, 1986, 1987, 2007, 2008, and 2009 (named
1991, 1992, 1994, and 1995 captain)
Super Bowl Appearances: Super Bowl Stanley Cup Appearances: None; made the
XIX in 1985, defeated by Joe playoffs with the Boston Bruins in
Montana and the San Francisco 2002, 2003, and 2004; made the
49ers; made the playoffs in 1983, playoffs with the San Jose Sharks in
1984, 1985, 1990, 1992, 1994, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, and
1995, 1997, 1998, and 1999 2011
Awards: 1984 NFL MVP Awards: 2006 Art Ross and Hart
Memorial trophies, only player to win
the Hart while splitting the season
with two clubs
Notable Distinctions and Milestones: Notable Distinctions and Milestones:
Played 242 games and started 240 2011: Played in 1,000th game
of them April 8, 2011: Scored 1,000th point
Ranks 3rd in all-time wins with 147 against the Phoenix Coyotes
First QB to have six 4,000 yard seasons 2005-2006: 125 points, the highest
(1984,1985, 1986, 1988, 1992, point total for a player during
and 1994) a season with two clubs
First QB to pass for 5,000 yards in a 2006-2007: 3rd player in NHL
season (5,084 yards in 1984) history to post 90-assist
Played the most seasons for the Miami seasons in back-to-back years
Dolphins franchise 2010: Won the gold medal with Team
Has 110 wins with former head coach in the Vancouver Olympics
Don Shula, the second most for a
coach-QB tandem
Inducted into the Hall of Fame 2005
Comparing the impressive careers of these two athletes, Dan and Joe are not so different. Each has proven to be a superstar and have reached pivotal milestones. Marino may be able to boast having played in the Super Bowl and won the conference championship, but Thornton still has neither won the conference nor appeared in the Stanley Cup final. However, Joe is not empty handed, for he can raise his gold medal from the 2010 Olympics. It should be noted that Marino would never be able to do so since football is not an Olympic sport, or at least not American football. Although Marino has been featured in the blockbuster hit Ace Ventura: Pet Detective while Joe has yet to make his Hollywood debut.
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